[kevine3 offline]

I was just wondering what peoples thoughts are on his case and him being stripped of his 7 Tour de France wins. I mean he was already proven innocent once can they not just give the guy a break.

[Jared13 offline]

Did the UCI actually strip the titles? I haven't checked since the USADA made their announcement last night.


I don't know/care if he doped or not, but I feel the USADA didn't properly handle this at all.

[maddslacker offline]

Actually it's only the USADA, UCI has taken no action yet.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/ ... 57258616/1

[Spartan offline]

He can't win the case. He will be dragged through the mud with testimony after testimony....It's just damage control.. I love Lance and believe he is a super human man-beast that worked harder than anyone via training to win those titles even if he did dope I still think he just flat out worked harder than anyone. EVER.....However, an innocent man would fight this to his grave.

[kevine3 offline]

I agree with you Spartan he has worked extremely hard for his accomplishments. And I still have respect for him. His titles have been stripped.
If you have not already you should read Lance Armstrong's statement, i agree with what he says and they just need to leave him alone. You can read it on his website.

[fat_billy offline]

This is B*ll S*it!!!!!! Lance won 7 TDF! Took two tears off, came back and took 3rd in the worlds most demanding event. He was drug tested hundreds of times before, during and after the the races. To raise the issue years (5-6) after to take away his titles is crap. They couldn't take the titles away by beating him on the bike. I'm supprised they didn't go after him for being too light after he had a testile removed. He wasn't lighter because no one in France has a pair anyway. Why don't we take away all of Tomach's wins because his son is fast in Motocross, must have cheated to have a fast kid. Makes as much since as the Lance issue. Other cyclists were pulled for the race because they tested positive and couldn't beat Armstrong. Ahhhhhhhhh!!! I feel better having vented but I still hate it. Later,

[Jared13 offline]

Actually it's only the USADA, UCI has taken no action yet.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/ ... 57258616/1

Right.

So what's that mean? He can't compete for the US in international events?

@Spartan
Agreed. If he fought this one, another one would spring up. Granted, if they had damning evidence and Lance knew about it, I'd probably stop fighting also. I guess we won't know until the USADA releases what information they have.

@fat_billy
No kidding. If he doped, he beat other dopers. If he didn't dope, he still beat other dopers.

[brianW offline]

As fat billy (for president) said, hundreds of tests and never a positive.

[fat_billy offline]

I also believe in Chuck Norris even though he died his beard for Expendables 2. Later,

[fat_billy offline]

Oh yeah, Lance took second place in a 36 mile MTB race in Aspen today. The teenager that beat him will test clean I'm sure. Lance's foundation has taken in record donations since all this crap so I guess he is still winning. Go out and buy some Nike products since they didn't drop his sponsorship. Go Lance! Later,

[Johneblz offline]

They ALL dope. So what is the advantage? To do this after so much time is crap but Im sure they have some good evidence for him to back off. This guy is so tough he should have been a mountain biker all along!

[ollysj offline]

So Jan Ullrich should get his title back?

[mtbgreg1 offline]

Oh yeah, Lance took second place in a 36 mile MTB race in Aspen today. The teenager that beat him will test clean I'm sure. Lance's foundation has taken in record donations since all this crap so I guess he is still winning. Go out and buy some Nike products since they didn't drop his sponsorship. Go Lance! Later,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2 ... 29975.html

[taylor757 offline]

lance is an outstanding rider and he won those tours hands down. it is to bad that our government, the french, and the the riders who were so jealous of his wins can cause so much grief. i fully understand the reason he has given up the fight and fully support him.

[dgaddis offline]

lance is an outstanding rider and he won those tours hands down. it is to bad that our government, the french, and the the riders who were so jealous of his wins can cause so much grief. i fully understand the reason he has given up the fight and fully support him.

I'd love to think he did it all clean, but the realist in me says no way jose. I do hope we actually hear the testimony from all of his ex team mates that were involved in the investigation.

But honestly, at the end of the day, I don't really care. I'm going to keep riding my bike and loving it!

Something to think about, from RedKitePrayer: http://redkiteprayer.com/2012/08/endgame/

Once the procedure this announcement sets in motion has run its full course, here’s what the Tour de France results will look like:

1999: 1. Alex Zulle 2. Fernando Escartin 3. Laurent Dufaux
2000: 1. Jan Ullrich 2. Joseba Beloki 3. Christophe Moreau
2001: 1. Jan Ullrich 2. Joseba Beloki 3. Andrei Kivilev
2002: 1. Joseba Beloki 2. Raimondas Rumsas 3. Santiago Botero
2003: 1. Jan Ullrich 2. Alexandre Vinokourov 3. Tyler Hamilton
2004: 1. Andreas Klöden 2. Ivan Basso 3. Jan Ullrich
2005: 1. Ivan Basso 2. Francisco Mancebo 3. Alexandre Vinokourov

Take a moment to consider the names that were elevated in Armstrong’s absence. With the exception of Andrei Kivilev, during their careers each of those riders tested positive for doping, confessed to doping in the Festina scandal or were strongly implicated in Operacion Puerto. Be not confused: This is not a fix for one simple reason: It does nothing to solve the doping occurring today.